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#1 randylsmith

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Posted 07 June 2003 - 07:15 PM

I would like to use paypal in stealth mode. I will supply the credit card numbers and addresses and everything, and just want paypal to act as the payment gateway. It should accept the payment info and return either an "all went well" signal (typically zero) or there was a problem. It should not stop and display any paypal messages.

Is this possible? I would bring quite a few merchants to paypal and I'm sure many others would as well.

I did try with your code examples. So far I have the folllowing, but it still stops and wants paypal user registration or signin or some such thing and I don't see any exampls of supplying the credit card information via variables.

This is my last chance at this -- otherwise I will need to take my business to others who have payment gateways that I can use.

Thanks for your help!

Randy L. Smith
MCPI, LLC (mcpi.com)

<form action="https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr" method="post">
<input type="hidden" name="item_name" value="The Bloom Score Report">
<input type="hidden" name="item_number" value="BloomScoreReport_R1">
<input type="hidden" name="amount" value="0.02">
<input type="hidden" name="shipping" value="0.04">
<input type="hidden" name="shipping2" value="0.00">
<input type="hidden" name="handling" value="0.00">
<input type="hidden" name="add" value="1">
<input type="hidden" name="cs" value="0">
<input type="hidden" name="cmd" value="_ext-enter">
<input type="hidden" name="redirect_cmd" value="_xclick">
<input type="hidden" name="quantity" value="1">
<input type="hidden" name="cn" value="Message Note Area">
<input type="hidden" name="custom" value="weborder">
<input type="hidden" name="invoice" value="456">
<input type="hidden" name="currency_code" value="USD">
<input type="hidden" name="bn" value="wa_dw_3.0.4">
<input type="hidden" name="business" value="bloomscore@mcpi.com">
<input type="hidden" name="email" value="buyer@mcpi.com">
<input type="hidden" name="first_name" value="Ima">
<input type="hidden" name="lastname_name" value="Goodguy">
<input type="hidden" name="address1" value="510 Second Street">
<input type="hidden" name="address2" value="South Half">
<input type="hidden" name="city" value="Hudson">
<input type="hidden" name="state" value="WI">
<input type="hidden" name="zip" value="54016">
<input type="hidden" name="night_phone_a" value="715">
<input type="hidden" name="night_phone_b" value="386">
<input type="hidden" name="night_phone_c" value="8231">
<input type="hidden" name="day_phone_a" value="612">
<input type="hidden" name="day_phone_b" value="518">
<input type="hidden" name="day_phone_c" value="2392">
<input type="hidden" name="image_url" value="https://secure.lockbasket.com/bloomscore/images/imgBloomScoreLogo.gif">
<input type="hidden" name="notify_url" value="http://www.bloomscore.com/thankyou.cfm">
<input type="hidden" name="return" value="http://www.bloomscore.com/thankyou.cfm">
<input type="hidden" name="cancel_return" value="http://www.bloomscore.com/tryagain.cfm">
<input type="hidden" name="undefined_quantity" value="0">
<input type="hidden" name="no_shipping" value="0">
<input type="hidden" name="no_note" value="0">
<input type="hidden" name="tax" value="0.03">
<input type="image" name="submit" src="http://images.paypal.com/images/x-click-butcc.gif" border="0" alt="Make payments with PayPal, it's fast, free, and secure!">
</form>


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Posted 08 June 2003 - 05:58 AM

All new customers that pay via PayPal *will* have to sign up for a PayPal account. There is *NO* way to just send PayPal all the order info and have them process the order.

They *want* your customers to signup for their service.

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Posted 09 June 2003 - 07:10 AM

That is unfortunate. Even if they added a few cents to the transaction to make up for it, they would get a whole new slew of "customers" who would increase their transaction quantity just because they would use a service with no monthly fee. I know I would, and I know I would talk most of my customers into it as well.

Alas. Thanks for the response.
RLS

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by lunchboxpad
[br]All new customers that pay via PayPal *will* have to sign up for a PayPal account. There is *NO* way to just send PayPal all the order info and have them process the order.

They *want* your customers to signup for their service.

Bryan
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Posted 10 June 2003 - 04:31 PM

PayPal is quite a bit different from other credit card processors including that payments are password-protected and buyers have several options with which to fund the payment.

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Dev Net: https://www.paypal.com/pdn

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Posted 10 June 2003 - 04:59 PM

Patrick, that's not a good enough excuse. PayPal basically wants *our* customers to store funds within the PayPal service. PayPal could have a stand-alone processing feature, but it chooses not to do so.

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Posted 10 June 2003 - 05:10 PM

That's a bit like saying Starbucks could sell tires but it chooses not to.

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#7 randylsmith

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Posted 11 June 2003 - 05:24 AM

I don't believe your analogy is correct. It's more like saying Starbucks, a retail coffee shop, could sell coffee beans so people could make their own coffee at home and... hey! They do!

Go figure, they're thinking about ALL of their options and their commercial customers.

Randy L. Smith
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Posted 17 August 2003 - 10:55 PM

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by paypal_pb
[br]PayPal is quite a bit different from other credit card processors including that payments are password-protected and buyers have several options with which to fund the payment.
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I've used other payment gateways for precisely this reason. I do not want to force my clients to have a paypal account. If there are 30+ million paypal account holders, how many VISA/MC/AMEX holders are there that aren't paypal customers? I'm doing a programming job for a client who is starting with paypal but will likely migrate away once revenues start increasing.

Paypal is great if you can't afford payment gateway fees, but just realize many clients don't have paypal accounts which creates a barrier to using your payment system. You get what you pay for. The fees are low but the service creates friction in the buying process.




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Posted 18 August 2003 - 03:33 PM

That may be the case, although with nearly every online store requiring account creation, we think it's not too bad. Also, the addition of bank account and stored value (and Amex and Discover) payments decreases the friction.

Patrick Breitenbach
PayPal, Inc.
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